WRAP 2.x

[Jim Thompson]

On Nov 17, 2004, at 7:53 AM, Ryan D. Hatch wrote:

>  Thanks for the reply, Miles...
>
>  Another question here...  If we wanted to run:
>
>      * General purpose Apache
>      * MySQL
>      * PHP, etc.
>
>  On our WRAP box -- What OS should we use?
>
>  Lonnie at StarOS says there's no way to compile that software on 
> StarOS (no user-land).       Anybody??

I'm sure Lonnie is avoiding the issue.   StarOS has a user-land.  He 
just doesn't want your 'cruft' on
his releases.  For instance, "busybox" is part of StarOS, and it runs 
in user-land.

Further, the 'RD' file on the ISO images is obviously a ramdisk image, 
as evidenced by this from "LOADER.CFG":

default Router
label Router
   kernel kernel
   append ramdisk_start=0 ramdisk_size=32768 root=700 load_ramdisk=1 
initrd=rd

thats syslinux, baby.  And check (part) of what they've done to it:

@@ -793,6 +819,8 @@
  ;
  ; Data that needs to be in the first sector
  ;
+
+install_banner	db CR, LF, 'Loading installer, please wait...', 0
  isolinux_banner	db CR, LF, 'ISOLINUX ', version_str, ' ', date, ' ', 0
  copyright_str   db ' Copyright (C) 1994-', year, ' H. Peter Anvin'
  		db CR, LF, 0
@@ -1269,10 +1297,13 @@
  		call slow_out

  		; Show some life
-		mov si,isolinux_banner
-		call write_serial_str
-		mov si,copyright_str
+		mov si,install_banner
  		call write_serial_str
+		; **TONY**
+		;mov si,isolinux_banner
+		;call write_serial_str
+		;mov si,copyright_str
+		;call write_serial_str

  		jmp short parse_config_3

(from the file "DIFF" on the root of the ISO image).   In case you 
don't read x86 assembler, all this really does is
disguise the fact that syslinux (ISOLINUX) is being used.  It prints 
"Loading installer, please wait..." and doesn't print
the Copyright statement.    Assuming that this is the code that runs in 
the loader, this isn't ethical, or legal, even if they've given us the 
diff.   Doing so destroys the authors "Moral rights".  See: 
http://www.trytel.com/~pbkerr/copyright.html for an explanation of 
Canadian law, and 
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property/library/moralprimer.html for an 
explanation of U.S. law.  (EU and Australian laws are about the same as 
the Canadian laws here.)

This isn't the only IP-infringement that Valemount are guilty of.  
Valemont are also GPL rip-offs.   They took the GPL code for the 
orinoco_cs driver, changed "hermes" to "orinoco" everywhere, took the 
(GPL) copyright statement off, put a "Valemont" copyright statement on, 
and accomplished the straight-forward changes to load a compiled-in 
tertiary firmware image for the Hermes/Lucent/Orinoco cards, so they 
could be run in "AP" mode.

Thats copyright infringement, baby.  $10,000 per occurrence.

And this takes balls:  http://www.star-os.com/credits.php  (Read around 
for the parts about Lucent AP support.)

How do I know any of this?   Vivato bought the Lucent AP driver from 
them.   (They delivered their entire build environment.)   I complained 
(internally) and was asked to keep it quiet.  But that was long ago 
now, and it still pisses me off.

If you buy Star-OS, you support people who rip-off the GPL and have no 
respect for others IP rights.

IANAL,

jim

>
> --
> Ryan D. Hatch
> President & Chief Executive Officer
> WebDynamix Corporation
> ryan.hatch at webdynamix.com
> Direct: 920.217.0605
>
>
>  msilkjr (Adelphia Email) wrote:
>  Hey check out  www.wisp-router.com they have them.  Eja is great and 
> knows is stuff. I've been using all the wraps since they came out. Try 
> star-os on them. I haven't had any fail yet.
>
>  Miles
>  Wireless Revolution Inc
> www.vermontwireless.net
>
>
> Subject:
>  WRAP
>
> From:
>  "Ryan D. Hatch" <ryan.hatch at webdynamix.com>
>
> Date:
>  Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:25:03 -0600
>
> To:
> dev at seattlewireless.net
>
> To:
>  dev at seattlewireless.net
>
>  Hello,
>
>  I'm considering using the WRAP 2.x   
> (http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm)
>
>    *  Is anyone currently using them... how are they holding up?  How 
> easy were they to setup?
>
>    * Anyone know of a pre-packaged WRAP 2.x product?
>
>    * What indoor enclosures for are available for the WRAP 2.x?
>
>
>  I would greatly appreciate any input on this.
>
>  Thank you,
>
>  Ryan
>
>  --
>  Ryan D. Hatch
>  President & Chief Executive Officer
>  WebDynamix Corporation
>  ryan.hatch at webdynamix.com
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